[HanoiLUG] Call for volunteers

[Vu Do Quynh]

Hi,

Selon Le Xuan Thao <thaolx at gmail.com>:

> On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 16:41 +0700, David Tremblay wrote:

> > The only problem is we need people to give the courses in Vietnamese. We
> > could actually find many people who would prefer to do it "in other
> > language".
> >
> > We also know that we could find vietnamese that could do it but so far
> > nobody shows up...

> Please tell what I need to do, Mr Quynh?
>
Thanks for replying,

Actually you are the second person to volunteer, the first one was LeRoy Duvall.
We also already have one pre-"registered" student.
Maybe we need to gather altogether to discuss details of preparation, for
instance on the 24th of Nov at the Hanoilug party, or separately on the
internet (chat conference room or through collaborative sites).

With LeRoy, we have planned a tentative first run for 1 day on Sat. 16th
December (on full day). I am quite busy right now, but I will work out a
proposal of activities that will fit within one day. If you join in, we could
maybe do a two-days course (one with Leroy and one with you). The course is
intended to Vietnamese (With Leroy I would do Vietnamese translation) that are
beginners or completely new to Linux and who are not obligatory informaticians
(or learning in that field).

The objective of the course is that after the course they shall be confident
enough to install their own Linux distribution on their own desktop/laptop and
get to work with it, that means getting to work with the main applications that
are provided with the distribution, in this case Ubuntu and knowing the basic 
shell commands (ls, mkdir, cat, less, etc.) + connecting to the internet via 
WIFI, a modem or via a LAN.

We do not yet address stronger issues of network administration because we do
not have the competencies and/or because the competent people we know of do not
have time (yet) to do it.

About "fees"

"100.000 VND for 3 days", as I suggested is very low, yet I understand it could
be high for some students. But, we should compare with the global price
structure : if you need somebody to install (pirated) software on your
computer, or fix viruses (and format your hard disk in the end) you have to pay
around 50.000 VND.

If you need someone to fix anything, even guard motorbikes for the SFD day, you
have to pay even more than that. I must say that if we get 10 registered
students (true students and already working people), that's only 1 MVND (for 3
days), that means if you want to pay the teacher something it's only
300.000/day (7 hours min.) for him (if only one teacher), which is a miserable
sum that we can not call a "pay", nor "wages", but only a "symbolic
remuneration". Teachers at the university can get paid 50-100 KVND per hour
(i.e. 45 mn) extra teaching.

If you really want to learn Linux, the first step is that you should be able to
use Linux for your everyday computing tasks like email, web browsing, word
processing and chatting, etc. Then you can start to play with more
sophisticated matters, like working in the command line rather than through the
graphical interface, i.e. understanding the Linux file systems. This is what we
are aiming up to for that first course level : installing Linux and using it
for everyday computing tasks.

I will come out with an outline of the elementary course, hopefully by this WE
and will put one display copy on the wiki. I will also use docs.google.com for
collaboratively editing documents for the course. People who want to contribute
to editing these documents, or just view their contents, please email me
spécifically. The reason why I will use docs.google.com rather than the
dokuwiki is because with docs.google.com you can export to a variety of file
formats, including ODT, PDF, HTML, RTF and DOC.

We intend to issue registering forms on the occasion of the 4th National
conference on open-source software in Vietnam (due 6th Dec 2006 in Hanoi's
Melia Hotel).

I am looking for volunteers and/or people who are ready to translate to
Vietnamese the Ubuntu Desktop Guide
(https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html) for a small
remuneration (same rate as for OpenOffice.org translations of last year), from
now until the 4th of December 2006 (i.e. about 2 weeks time). I am currently
translating the chapter 1 and chapters 2 to 4 are available for volunteers.
Note that the reason why I have chosen 6.06 (rather than 6.10) is because 6.06
has a long-term support, so a lot of what is valid for 6.06 is also valid for
6.10 and a later adaptation from 6.06 to 6.10 will be not very difficult.

Regards

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Vu Do Quynh
Agence universitaire de la Francophonie - Bureau Asie Pacifique