[HanoiLUG] HanoiLUG Digest, Vol 32, Issue 33
Ta Quang Thai
ta.quang.thai at vietsoftware.com
Thu Dec 27 12:04:42 ICT 2007
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> 1. Re: HanoiLUG Digest, Vol 32, Issue 32 (Hoang Quang Huy)
> 2. (Urgent) File server (Huan Truong)
> 3. Re: (Urgent) File server (Nguyen Vu Hung)
> 4. Re: (Urgent) File server (Jean Christophe Andr?)
> 5. Re: (Urgent) File server (Tom Lancaster)
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> Subject:
> Re: [HanoiLUG] HanoiLUG Digest, Vol 32, Issue 32
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> Tue, 25 Dec 2007 22:43:30 -0800 (PST)
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> Subject:
> [HanoiLUG] (Urgent) File server
> From:
> "Huan Truong" <huantnh at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:31:11 +0700
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I am about to buy a new file server for my company, but I have no past
> experience on buying one.
>
> Can you suggest me a reliable and cheap one *and where to buy it in
> Hanoi*, storage requirement is ~100GB or more, RAID 1 configuration. I
> am going to run Debian on it. As I am about to leave Vietnam in the
> next 10 days so I need your suggestions asap. A rack mount server is
> nice but a tower one is OK.
>
> Thanks everybody.
>
>
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> Subject:
> Re: [HanoiLUG] (Urgent) File server
> From:
> "Nguyen Vu Hung" <vuhung16plus at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:59:01 +0900
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> 2007/12/26, Huan Truong <huantnh at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I am about to buy a new file server for my company, but I have no past
>> experience on buying one.
>>
>> Can you suggest me a reliable and cheap one *and where to buy it in
>> Hanoi*, storage requirement is ~100GB or more, RAID 1 configuration. I
>> am going to run Debian on it. As I am about to leave Vietnam in the
>> next 10 days so I need your suggestions asap. A rack mount server is
>> nice but a tower one is OK.
>>
>> Thanks everybody.
>>
>
> THIS IS URGENT!
>
> xD
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> Subject:
> Re: [HanoiLUG] (Urgent) File server
> From:
> Jean Christophe André <jean-christophe.andre at auf.org>
> Date:
> Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:29:43 +0700
> To:
> Hanoi Linux Users Group <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org>
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> To:
> Hanoi Linux Users Group <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org>
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> Huan Truong a écrit :
>
>> I am about to buy a new file server for my company, but I have no past experience on buying one.
>>
>> Can you suggest me a reliable and cheap one *and where to buy it in Hanoi*, storage requirement is ~100GB or more, RAID 1 configuration. I am going to run Debian on it. As I am about to leave Vietnam in the next 10 days so I need your suggestions asap. A rack mount server is nice but a tower one is OK.
>>
>>
> Just a few hints I give to my co-workers:
> - take care when buying rack-mount case: you may have trouble adding
> extension cards when choosing smaller than 3U ; and it's quite difficult
> to find in Hanoi too: our usual provider had to buy it from HCMC ;
> - buy plenty of RAM (from 1 to 64 GB), so that most frequent disk access
> will be cached in RAM (Linux make use of all unclaimed RAM for
> buffer/cache) ;
> - if you need quick random access to data then you should probably use
> SCSI disk since the SCSI card will organize data access in the most
> efficient manner (reorder them to reduce mecanical movements) ; ATA
> (IDE/PATA or SATA) on the other hand will require more CPU time (not
> power, but "busy" time waiting for I/O) since the CPU will have to do
> everything by itself ;
> - by the way, if you need CPU processing, choose one with large L2 cache
> (>= 1 Mo), not some loose one like a Celeron ;
> - and last but not least, storing data is one thing, but don't forget
> about saving it! RAID-1 will only preserve from data loss because of one
> disk failure, but not full data loss in case of two disk failing at the
> same time, or fire in the computer or just some bad guy/program
> intruding the server and removing/corrupting everything... Here I
> recommend the "backuppc" wonderful free software.
>
>
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> Subject:
> Re: [HanoiLUG] (Urgent) File server
> From:
> Tom Lancaster <tom at grubby.net>
> Date:
> Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:31:42 +0700
> To:
> Hanoi Linux Users Group <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org>
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> To:
> Hanoi Linux Users Group <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org>
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> On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 14:31 +0700, Huan Truong wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I am about to buy a new file server for my company, but I have no past
>> experience on buying one.
>>
>> Can you suggest me a reliable and cheap one *and where to buy it in
>> Hanoi*, storage requirement is ~100GB or more, RAID 1 configuration. I
>> am going to run Debian on it. As I am about to leave Vietnam in the
>> next 10 days so I need your suggestions asap. A rack mount server is
>> nice but a tower one is OK.
>>
>
>
> I put together one from parts on the shelf at Tran Anh computer -
> trananh.com.vn
>
> 3x 500GB SATA drives (2x for RAID 1 + 1x spare / backup), ~$80 CPU, 2GB
> RAM. You could do it much cheaper by using 250GB drives, but 500GB are
> great value for money.
>
> If space is not a constraint I wouldn't bother with a rackmount.
> Similarly I wouldn't bother with SCSI drives unless money is no object.
> If you have extra cash to burn spend it on RAM, given what JC says about
> caching.
>
> The kids at Tran Anh seem to know their cases and power supplies pretty
> well, and I have no complaints about the box so far (running as a samba
> server for an office of 20 people). Uptime is 100+ days since I trained
> them not to power cycle it when the DSL line goes down :)
>
> Tom
>
>> Thanks everybody.
>>
>>
>
>
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Hi all,
My suggest to buy an IBM, HP or Dell server if you need a stable,
performance and cost effectiveness! Currently it is not too expensive if
you decide to by a tower case. Btw, pls. let us know your budget amount?
For the OS you can consider Asianux Server 3 and we can give you a help
if needed.
Thai
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