[HanoiLUG] Intel Open Source Center and Software solution wants to meet Hanoi LUG : what are your expectations ?

[David Tremblay]

Very interesting discussion,

I think more people should involve in this discussion that's why I'm
announcing a blunt statement below 

but I take the suggestion "to help vietnamese developers to contribute
more to FOSS projects " very good

See my other suggestion as well

Le jeudi 31 mai 2007 à 22:41 +0900, Nguyen Anh Quynh a écrit :
> On 5/31/07, Jean Christophe André <jean-christophe.andre at auf.org> wrote:
> > Nguyen Anh Quynh a écrit :
> > > i wonder if Intel is going to work with some universities in Hanoi
> > > this time? that might bring out better things than talking with
> > > community, if what they have in mind are education and development.
> > >
> > Yes, that would be great!
> >
> > And, wait! You shall not underestimate the power of a comunity too! ;-)
> >
> > A solid community of people, well structured and really believing in the
> > FOSS philosophy, may sometime participate in the country development far
> > beyond some old slugish administration, if you see what I mean... ;-)
> 
> of course that would be awsome, but i never seen anything like that,
> and probably it will not happen in VN in foreseeable future. that is
> sad but true!
> 
> >
> > And... Are you meaning there is universities really wanting to
> > participate in some FOSS project, not only to get founding with it?!
> 
> yes, that is what i meant. my point is that we are and going to get a
> lot from open source, but we have almost nothing to contribute back.
> that is bad, and even worse, it might remain unchanged for a very long
> time!
> 

I think it is not a lack of capacity but a lack of understanding and a
cutural bias toward money and fashion. Far more poorer country such as
Bengladesh, India or very small (Catalonia) have more impact on FOSS
projects. Most Vietnamese official understand GNU/Linux and any Free
software as cheap alternative to windows, which is not, here in this
list we know that, but what about outside 

GNU / Linux is not fashionable by itself and you cannot tell your friend
that you pay a lot for it. 

So how can you make attractive something that apparently is not trendy ?
How can you explain someone / govt / company that there's advantage to
contribute to a project and release the sources ? That a worldwide
software friendship is better than removing the copyright in the footer
of a GPL web application and put "cong ty whatever" ?

How do you say "the more you give the more your receive ?" If vietnamese
developers starts to understand that they will easily become great
contributor. 

Do we know Vietnamese (In vietnam) that contribute to FOSS ? We should
be celebrating them and show them everywhere. If we don't have money at
least we could give recognition. 

My second suggestion is to hold a congress of Vietnamese Open Source
developers by early 2008. Something for developers with developers no
administrative bla bla ? No one with grey suit and a tie but real geek.
We could even try to have famous vietnamese oversee to come and
participate ? 
 
Other suggestion  


> > Does such a thing really exist in Vietnam?? ;-)
> 
> not sure, but most likely NOT!
> 
> >
> > We, at AuF, would be really glad to meet them, since we are working
> > mainly with universities (letter 'u' in "AuF") and have some programs
> > allowing (little) founding for IT in education projects. But we should
> > work mainly with French speaking people (letter 'F' in "AuF") too.
> > Something that I have been told beeing a "handicap"! :-P But in fact
> > there is always a few french speaking people in each university, so it's
> > not really about that concern...
> >
> 
> in each university? that really surprises me. actually i never seen
> anybody speak french around :-).
> 

I'm sure everyone can say "bonjour" "c'est la vie" and "voulez vous
coucher avec moi".





> 
> cheers,
> Q
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